President Goldwater the good old days

[Dennis Moore]

We will learn from history or be wounded by it. Does anyone remember the back in the good-old days of President Goldwater. Do we remember the things that great conservative president got accomplished for this great country. Do we remember the number of troups he brought home from a badly processed war. Oh, and don't forget the course change that President Goldwater got accomplished when he rescued our finacial institution by not printing more fiat dollars to fund a badly planned war. Whats that you say, you do not remember those things President Goldwater accomplished? The reason you do not remember those things is that they never were accomplished. The reason those things were never accomplished was an "electability issue", for you see Senator Goldwater never became President. He just wasn't electable. History is what it is. The horrific things we did get were the continuance of printing fiat money for a bad war and the committing of many more lives to that war. The debt created is still being processed, the lives lost will never be "processed" and shoud not be, but we should allow history to speak to us. We live in a "center right" country. We as Tea Party patriots will try to move this country "rightwardly" but as we try, we had better not forget the demographics that elect presidents. We cannot endure another Lyndon Johnson (Obama) and an implimentation of a "Great Society" on "Steroids". There is too much to lose to believe that the electability issue is a fallacy. We need to work hard to change the demographics, but until we move them more "rightwardly" we need to learn from history or we will once again will be wounded by it.

Dennis Moore

[James (Jim) Grapp]

Dennis,

According to your logic, every one who lost an election had an electability issue.  That's why they lost.  My point is we don't know that in advance.  Would the Republicans have nominated Goldwater if they didn't think he could win???  We simply cannot base our decisions on who to support on PERCEIVED electability because that's exactly what it is - PERCEIVED electability.

I am not saying that what we believe to be the right man will always be elected even when nominated.  There's certainly no guarantee Romney will win either if nominated.  I simply believe the other candidates would have had just as good a chance as he does at least and maybe a greater one at best.  The problem is we will never know, and that is what makes the idea of electability subjective.  There are no 'do-overs' in elections.

I remember the Goldwater campaign - he was thought to be in favor of 'nuking' the communists.  It scared the bejeezus out of folks.  That is what, in my opinion, sank him.  He was also much more of a libertarian than Herman Cain, Rick Perry, or Newt Gingrich.  He would be more like Ron Paul, who I agree would not likely be elected, but that is not the point here.  I am talking perceived electability of the former front runners in the campaign.

But we live in very different times than the Goldwater era as seen by the last mid-term elections and the whole tea party movement and its impact!  The silent majority has begun to wake up, and a lot of so called 'undefeatable' incumbents  were swept from office in that election.  It is my hope the momentum will continue to mount, but it will not be helped by abandoning viable candidates based on perceived electability.

There are a lot of disgruntled Democrats who are realizing they were 'duped' by Obama as well, and that the Democratic party is becoming the new Socialist Party under Obama. There is a also great number of independents who don't like him.

Remember, I'm only one man with one opinion.  The strength of the tea party movement is that it matters what each of us think and that we have the right and the opportunity to express it.

I will vote for whoever makes it through the convention as our nominee, I just likely won't be glad to do it.

See you Friday night!!

Jim